2004 m3 smg or manual transmission vs auto

I have a 2004 e46 330i, with an automatic transmission. The light on the dash just blinks the gear it is supposed to go in but the shift doesnt happen. To my knowledge all the production cars still have the smgiii, and that bmw has. I drive both a manual car and an smg car and i find the smg car to be fun in very different way. I also have a 2003 zhp e46 330i, 6 speed manual transmission, doner car. If this happens to a car you own it often make sense to convert the car to a manual rather than fix the smg unit. Theres no right answer if you were just a casual e46 m3 forum lurker, youd be forgiven for thinking that theres an allout war between manual and smg owners. We have 27 2004 bmw m3 vehicles for sale that are reported accident free, 1 1owner cars, and 44 personal use cars. Smg shifting problem will not go away bmw cca forum.

In order for cruise control, pdc, and the reverse light to function the car must be wired and recoded as a manual car. But all of you are missing out on fantastic vehicles because people with no experience with the system love to perpetuate the myth that the transmission murders puppies and gave your grandmother glaucoma. Its essentially a transmission capable of functioning as an automatic, or. Bmw e46 m3 smg to 6spd manual conversion bmws e46 m3 is arguably the best m car to date.

It works kind of like a motorcycle in that you upshiftdownshift sequentially but cant skip gears like you can with a. An faq for the commonly misunderstood bmw smg ii transmission. Jun 19, 2010 smg stands for sequential manual gearbox. Jet black over cinnamon leather, absolutely gorgeous, 1owner, investmentgrade zcp m3. Validated for the first time in a 330i a sixspeed manual transmission will be standard. When the 6 speed manual m3 is tested instead of the smg version there is at least. The e46 m3 had a couple major issues, one of the lesser ones is the smg gearbox.

Manual vs auto vs cvt vs smg vs steptronic vs home. The transmission itself is the same getrag typed sixspeed used in the threepedal m3. The bmw smg transmission has both automatic and manual shift modes. Far more easiercheaper to maintain, and most importantly, only people who can drive a manual get to drive the car. Motylgear manual transmission differential fluid 75w90 1 liter technosynthese semisynthetic high performance gl4 gl5 gear oil specially recommended for hard to shift gearboxes brand. The clutch switch and brake switch must be installed and wired appropriately to retain the function of a true manual transmission e46 m3. With or without the sequential manual transmission, the mr2 is a charming little twoseat, midengine roadster. The smg ii drivelogic is bmws second generation of their sequential manual gearbox offered in the e46 m3 and possibly some other models that dont come to mind at the moment.

I did a insurance quote on a 2005 m3 smg and it came back saying it was manual. The quirks remind me of the 6t75 6speed auto that im using atm. Research, compare and save listings, or contact sellers directly from 23 2004 m3 models in naperville. Jul 01, 2002 smg first appeared in europe in 1996 and has recently accounted for half of all m3 sales outside the u. A high revving straight six with beautifully tuned individual throttle bodies, boasts an impressive 333hp, with nimble handling, an aggressive stance and body design that still competes with todays exotic cars.

Easier than option 1, cheaper than option 2, and the lightest option of the three, if youre aiming to race the car. The bmw 330ci is available in automatic and manual transmissions. Auto is good in stop and go traffic but kind of sensitive when it comes to maintenance. I heard the 6 spd is faster which seems untrue since the smg switches through the gears faster than most or all people can. Ok, maybe your grandmothers glaucoma is an overblown reason for her to get legal herbs, but thats beside the. Manual by dan barnes bmws sequential manual gearbox is a major technical achievement. Manual e46 m3s tend to be more desirable and cost quite a bit more than manual m3s. Manual e46 m3 s tend to be more desirable and cost quite a bit more than manual m3 s. Smg first appeared in europe in 1996 and has recently accounted for half of all m3 sales outside the u.

E46 m3 smg to manual conversion lang racing development. I wanted to get opinions on the smg vs the manual 6 spd. Jan 26, 2011 high mileage smg check in e46fanatics also a thread of a guy who did a smg manual transmission swap. So, according to jussi, the new m3 will come standard with smg iv or whatever itll be. Unlike bmws e60 m5 and e92 m3, the e46s smg and manual options use the same gearbox, allowing for cheap conversion from one to the other a process made simple less daunting by following. Electrohydraulic manual transmission, also known as a clutchless manual, or automated manual, is a type of semiautomatic transmission system, closely related to a manual transmission, which uses an electronicallycontrolled clutch mechanism, with hydraulic, electromechanical, or pneumatic activation, unlike conventional manual transmissions where the driver operates the clutch manually. How to own a bmw e46 m3 with a proper manual for next to nothing. If you have driven an automatic with steptronic or similar and paddle shifters its the. If you check the magazine times, the smt mr2 is a bit slower than the 5spd, but i think that is because it is not really possible to launch the car i.

It was the only significant change to the m product lineup for 2002, but it is newsworthy. Bmw m3 pov hdsmg tourhow to use the smg transmission bmw m3 pov drives. The innovation is that, when functioning as an automatic, the driver does not need to operate a clutch pedal, simply designate desired gear. Search from 21 bmw m3s for sale, including a used 2004 bmw m3, a used 2004 bmw m3 convertible, and a used 2004 bmw m3 coupe. Bmw m3 pov hdsmg ii tourhow to use the smg transmission. Bmw m3 smg to six speed manual conversion eurompire.

Its essentially a transmission capable of functioning as an automatic, or functioning as a manual transmission. Every used car for sale comes with a free carfax report. Auto e46 1999 2006 manual transmission is easy diy to change fluidoil. The chart below shows e36 e46 e90 e91 e92 e93 e85 e86 e83 e82 e88 transmission gear ratios.

An inherently lessefficient automatic dressed up with manual shift buttons or. Its a nearperfect sports car, to be honest, with timeless good looks. Its the same manual gearbox that, instead of having the clutch foot operated, has the clutch electrohydaulically. The smg computer is removed and all smg components are unplugged.

See good deals, great deals and more on a 2004 bmw m3. The hydraulic pump often fails resulting in a costly repair. The bodyinwhite is essentially the same from an smg to manual the only difference is a blanking plate that the smg controller bolts to where the linkage would normally pass through the body. Home forums zebra adidas yeezy boost 350 v2 restock will reportedly be more available this time bmw e46 330ci manual transmission tagged. Its quite shocking how it drives in comparison to my manual m3 part 2 will be released tommorow. High mileage smg check in e46fanatics also a thread of a guy who did a smg manual transmission swap. The smg transmission is sometimes not shifting to the next gear. The bmw m3 is not available with an automatic transmission and is only available in smg sequential manual gearbox or manual transmissions. Discussion in e46 m3 20012006 started by keca10, mar 17, 2009. Isnt it a normal manual box with an automated clutch and gear selector. I just joined this forum a few days ago and am shopping for an e60 m5.

Mar 17, 2009 smg shifting problem will not go away. Nothing about this transmission is inherently different, inside the case, everything is the same. But, if you want to claim that an auto performs as well as a manual or smg, youre dilusional. How to own a bmw e46 m3 with a proper manual for next to. Research, compare and save listings, or contact sellers directly from 22 2004 m3 models nationwide. Shop 2004 bmw m3 vehicles for sale in naperville, il at. I had a manual e46 323ci and an automatic e46 323ci, and trust me, the manual is far superior to the auto in performance. Feb 28, 2016 bmw m3 pov hdsmg tourhow to use the smg transmission bmw m3 pov drives. Page 3 e46fanatics i personally, would still recommend a a 6 mt over a smg. Aug 02, 2007 the bmw m3 is not available with an automatic transmission and is only available in smg sequential manual gearbox or manual transmissions. Take our your smg transmission, sell it, buy a 5 speed transmission from another model e36 m3, e46 330ci, among others, then stuff it back in the car. This 2004 bmw m3 is currently up for sale on bringatrailer and it only has 176 miles on it. Folks here try to explain how to work them, but really do not know about either one. Bmw e46 3 series coupe m3 smg ii technical specs, dimensions.

Smg is pretty much a hybrid of manual and automatic, as it can be driven in automatic or manual mode. Everything needed for the conversion is already in place on the transmission. Electrohydraulic manual transmission, also known as a clutchless manual, or automated. Unlike the phenomenal dct or dsg doubleclutch gearboxes used in performance cars of late, the smg was a single clutch setup that took away. Hopefully ive dispelled a few myths about the contraversial smg m3. I wasnt able to confirm whether the m3 smg is faster in a straight line than the m3 with a standard sixspeed manual transmission, but with the quicker shifts, i suspect its probably about a half second faster than the 5. I can watch the revs jump up and down while the car is struggling and trying to engage the gear as well. The driver changes gears with paddles but theres also an automatic mode. This e46 m3 competition is among the most impressive examples eag has sourced to date. It is somewhat complicated to work on, but we had success. Other notes, smgii seems to be more finicky than your average automatic transmission. My understanding is that an smg transmission is just like a regular manual transmission with a clutch but the computer controls the clutch application and actual shifting.

It may or may not shift into the same gear on the next. Learn me on smg vs dct transmissions my understanding is that an smg transmission is just like a regular manual transmission with a clutch but the computer controls the clutch application and actual shifting. Identical except for color, trim, and rear sunshade. The e46 m3 is powered by the s54 straightsix engine and has a 0100 kmh 62 mph acceleration time of 5. Part 1 of 3 watch as i drive a dual clutch m3 for the first time. Smgii was quicker than my friends e46 m3 manual mine zcp, vs same mods non zcp, he is a better driver. The hydraulic and electric smg pump that regulated the gear changes was prone to leaking and outright seizure over time, making the car. As a matter of fact, when some customers do have issues with the smg, they will opt for a manual conversion. New listing bmw oem e60 e63 e64 m5 m6 smg transmission gearbox pump block 20062010. This transmission uses regular clutch, the same clutch you have to work with your left foot in a fully manual car only they use two clutches, one for even gears and.